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Eide
 Eide - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 08:41   quote  deeplink  
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Op vrijdag 05 oktober 2012 - 23:42 schreef Javid het volgende:

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All statistics lie. Aha Eiden.=)House MD fan? Everybody lies(c) he says often )))

Dear Eiden.With all respect the only one man here who use statistics to manipulate with people minds is you.
When i brought them on scene my mission was not to manipulate but just simply in numbers to show you on what my point of view is basing.
Its you who try to manipulate with result when you say that only thing that people will remember that Frank made Ajax champion in first season.
Sometimes i thank God that there is no such red flaslight in your hand like one that Will Smith have had in MIB movie.
I almost can imagine you with such kind of thing in your hand,wearing black sunglasses and flash that shit in front of my face with words "Jol never exited its only your imagination" =)

So what comes to your words about the legacy of old crew in terms of weak squad, again you show that you are so blindly bealive in this new crew that even the foults of this new crew you easily write on old crews bill.

For your atention old crew has nothing to do with Kolbein "alwaysinjured" Sightorson. Also old crew has nothing to do with such a great value like Derk "skater" boerrighter. So on, old crew has nothing to do with Niklas Moisander who beside his two goals plays terrible,always loosing his man and postion.
Remember that moment when Duplan walk in our 16 yard box as at home,came almost to Vermeer and then made a cross and our luck was that Cedric van der Gun now is too old and slow to be able to lock down such type of crosses.That was the only one of many moments when moisander do everything for atacking side almost bring them cool drinks for they can feel themselves more comfortable in front of our goal.
Goal in game with ADO.Again genius new crew addition made the differnce.I`m pretty sure that this season Moisander will again many times more will make me considering what the fuck he is doing in the heart of defence of my Ajax.

So lets move on and talk about total drama whos name is Poulsen?give that boy some oil that he can use it on his knees.Because i can hear that creepy sound of his old knees even here in Moscow when he plays.Or it will be right to say "When he thinks that he plays" in fact even my grandpa can take the ball make 2-3 long cross in one game and in all other situations just pass it to the nearest player.You have not to be Poulsen and earn about million to do that.
Thats the role of great signing of miraclemaker new crew.

Lasse Shone - total joke. At least in the position where frank try to use him.But Frank is ready to fuck away the whole carierre of maybe our only midfielder who can make good cutting passes. Everything for only wooden captain can play.Everything for his favorite boy Siem. Siem made Frank the champion coach from nothing.And Frank will pay him back until Siem will be there.
In criminal world they call such kind of relations mutual responsibility.
When one thief help another because some long ago second one did not gave the name of first one to police when they arest him.

In all other things i`m agree new crew make more clever transfer. But.. ooops. I can not remember any tranfer more. Sana maybe...Yes Sana will come and fix all. Amen )))
All of this is pure opportunism. The focus is on the future. I've already indicated what the foundation is going to be. Building that foundation properly takes time. If you cannot see that or are unwilling to see that than this discussion is useless.
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 09:07   quote  deeplink  
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Op vrijdag 05 oktober 2012 - 13:13 schreef Javid het volgende:

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As you say Ajax Thrue out the years sold talents.Thats the thing in what ajax is the best.To grow and then sell.

But let us look to Ajax of 70`s.Cruyff himself left Ajax first when he was 26(!!!) years old.Same goes to the absolute most of that squad.Squad of triple european chamiopn of Ajax.If i`m not wrong only Neeskens from that team leave Ajax when he was younger campared to others.Piet Keizer even played whole his cariere in Ajax.

The "fast selling" tendency came after Bosman.When players begin to leave free Ajaxbegin to sell them fast.

So on from mid 90`s Ajax continued to sell talents.BUT(!!!)Did that in very unclever manner.And continues so till now.

And people like you always say something like:

"Look!Now we do what we always do best - Grow and sell.That`s the only proper way.It gave us an advantage far in history,it will gave us profits in future"

But you all can not cope with Bosman ruling.As Bosman ruling exists the old aproach that gave you advantages thrue history, now only accelerates the destruction of Ajax.

First of all you must find out how to keep your players more in ajax shirt.

Ok.You say that there is no money for salaries.And you can`t compete with big clubs offers when Newcastle offers Anita triple salary and Anita goes choses for Newcastle.

Then try to create another mechanism.

Maybe a stupid example but:
If you are pretty sure that your youth academy is the best all over the world then tell all talents who want to get education at De Toekomst that they can leave ajax only when they get 25-26 years.Put that note as necessarily term of their conracts. And that will be their pay for chance to educate in most wonderfull and well known football school.

Yes.This is only an example.And That will never get used in real life.

But my main message is that you try to do some old school stuff,but ignore to understand that rules have changed.So old aproach can not be succsessfull if you wil do it in old manner like you do it now.Without any improvement and corrections due to new world rules.

I`m toltaaly agree with you about
You getting it now!

Under Jol talenst went to AZ Feyenoord PSV, becaause Ajax ruled the news in a negative way.

Now with the new structure talents find their way to de Toekomst agian.
Thats a headstart , it will be payed out in 1-2 years, if we keep tracking talents you got different ages to implete in the first team.

Think youre plan of letting youth players stay till their 25-26 isnt back uped in the law, youth players (when their 17) can get a maximum contract of 5 years. If they are 16 is the max. 3 years.

That Cruijf left Ajax at 26 had everything to do with the salaries in that time. also foreign playesr had a maximum. There where no big differences, so we won the European cup 3 times almost 4 times in a row.
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 09:16   quote  deeplink  
You keep talking about Jol, you no what if Jol played last match against Real Madrid and lost 1-4 the whole stadion where Shouting Jol Fuck OFF!! With youre anti- ajax playing system.

With ajax playing as ajax agian we lost 1-4 butt most people where proud and and the end of the match everyone clapped there hands...

The Whole youth at ajax was in the time of Jol underestimated, he bought players with a high salary that only played ones or twice....
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 10:51   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 09:07 schreef Mokum1 het volgende:

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Think youre plan of letting youth players stay till their 25-26 isnt back uped in the law, youth players (when their 17) can get a maximum contract of 5 years. If they are 16 is the max. 3 years.

i know that Mokum.But, if it wil be neccesity, i`m pretty sure that they can find the way how to overcome that restrictions.
For example:When 17 years old player sign a conract for 5 years,Add there option to prolongate for another five years for club IF club is ready to double our to triple salary and bonuses.

And thats it.
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 10:56   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 10:51 schreef Javid het volgende:

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i know that Mokum.But, if it wil be neccesity, i`m pretty sure that they can find the way how to overcome that restrictions.
For example:When 17 years old player sign a conract for 5 years,Add there option to prolongate for another five years for club IF club is ready to double our to triple salary and bonuses.

And thats it.
Thats the bright side, there is a big dark side, a few players are good enough for topsoccer, most youth players arent good enough, then you have players almost in youre family and cant get rid of them..
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 11:01   quote  deeplink  
Eiden.

It`s a well known thing that when you have no arguments to continue discussion the best thing you can is to say "Shut the fuck up.you are fool and didn`t understand anaything!"

What you did in your last past when you called my text pure opportunism was a polite form of that.

So,it`s pitty for me when somebody says that new board acts wise in all fronts and made wise transfers.And when i count almost every so called "wise" transfer of this new board, and point on low payback of that transfers, you can not find anything to answer just saying that "opportunism" shit.
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 11:09   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 10:56 schreef Mokum1 het volgende:

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Thats the bright side, there is a big dark side, a few players are good enough for topsoccer, most youth players arent good enough, then you have players almost in youre family and cant get rid of them..
I`m agree with you.And that few players till this moment were fucked away.
Narsingh,Lens,Moisander,Boerrighter. at time they were not good enough for us.now we bay millions to get them back.
Brandje
 Brandje - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 11:12   quote  deeplink  
Siem de Jong is sinds dit seizoen de aanvoerder van ons aller Ajax. De 23-jarige middenvelder annex spits is het lievelingetje van hoofdtrainer Frank de Boer en verschijnt altijd in de basis met de zwart-rode aanvoerdersband om de arm. Maar is deze De Jong wel de beste man om de captain van Ajax te zijn?

Ja, De Jong heeft twee maal gescoord in de kampioenswedstrijd van Ajax in 2011. Ja, De Jong toont altijd veel inzet. Ja, De Jong is een zeer fatsoenlijke en sociale jongen. Maar is dat voldoende? Is De Jong de leider die Ajax op sleeptouw kan nemen in vijandige uitwedstrijden in de Eredivisie? Is De Jong de leider die de ploeg nodig heeft in zware internationale wedstrijden? Ik denk van niet.

Tijdens de afgelopen weken bleek De Jong niet in staat om de zelfverzekerdheid en bravoure uit te dragen die van een Ajax-captain verwacht wordt. Sterker nog, die bravoure is een vereiste op topniveau. Op bezoek bij ADO Den Haag (1-1) wist De Jong zijn ploeg echter niet te inspireren en tegen Real Madrid (1-4) was De Jong zelfs onzichtbaar.

Recente captains als Jan Vertonghen, Luis Suárez, Jaap Stam, Rafaël van der Vaart en Christian Chivu wisten allemaal wèl die onoverwinnelijkheid uit te stralen. Met zulke mannen viel niet te sollen. Die straalden de kwaliteit van Ajax uit. Zowel op, als buiten het veld. De Jong heeft daar niets van.

De Boer heeft mijns inziens dan ook een kapitale blunder gemaakt door De Jong als aanvoerder aan te stellen. Geen ervaren rot of de altijd imposante Toby Alderweireld kreeg de band. De Boer koos voor het braafste jongetje van de klas. Zo lang De Jong 'ja' blijft knikken, zoals hij maar liefst twintig maal doet in het interview hieronder, lijkt De Boer tevreden. De vraag is of Ajax daar baat bij heeft.
http://www.ajaxshowtime.com/opinie/65385/de-jong-ja-knikker-als-aanvoerder.html
remco k
 remco k - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 12:15   quote  deeplink  
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Op vrijdag 05 oktober 2012 - 17:40 schreef Javid het volgende:
Remco oh yes.
"Imbecileo" And Aras was true Ajax winger role models.=)First one like to shoot in the direction of his head.Even if he looks to own goal that makes no sence for him.He shhots.And even scores own goals.

Aras was named second Leo Messi by our genius oracul Frank De boer.
How Sad that armenian "Leo messi" can be usefull only in crap like Kuban Krasnodar.

So Next we have Derk Boerighter.Man who was named mister Overmars. People who gave him this nick name probably forget to add some words. "Of glass" "skater".
So it should sound as Skater mister overmars of glass.
Becuse whenever Boerighter is fit and can play, i mean not injured he skies more than he runs on field. And again its everybodies faulre but not his own. Its wet grass of pitch, pour lights wind that directs in face not in back,sun that shines also not in back but constatntly in eyes.

You want to talk about great ajax style with wingers more? ok.

Lets talk about Panna boy Lukoki.Who probably should change football for some athletics like 100 meter run.

For your own interest you can count nex game when he appears how often he lose the ball and how many times he manages deliver the ball to center by his crosses. On each game the most my count was 6 times. Only 6 times in one game Lukoki was able to make direct cross.I mean cross with adres.To zone here somebody can strugle. Hope you genious de boer someday teach that boy sometimes get his head up and look around not only useless runs.

And all of your sayings again is nothing.No numbers.No facts.

You know in the only thing that will remain in history for decades is result. And in this way De boer showed same result with Jol.That almost happened in game with madrid.The only exception that we finally have managed to score our first goal in 5th match.What an achievment!Dream come True yeah?

People will remember this.Statistics.
Not that who how much spend,or who how much key fugures loose.

So i resume if this Ajax with wings is the top of your dreams, then i`m sorry for you.For me its pure crap.

By the way small returning to subject.
It is all goes surely with our captain Siem "Lindgren" De Jong. That maube only you and De Boer can understand why this boy is in basics beside that he is totaal wooden.And even more with captain armband.
Alot of your words are put in the wrong prepective, de Boer never said Ozbiliz was the second Messi, he sais that Ozbilz has the same style of dribbling..

The rest of your post is bullshit, for example u only take out one thing that Boerrigter said after the Madrid game, he also said he played a poor game and is not in form yet.

And talkking about statistics again.. in 20 years, who do you think people remember?? The two titels of de Boer.. Of Jol who did not won any title.. I think u know the answer to that urself..

And Lukoki is a talent who doesn't even play in the first eleven.

Ajax is one of the two teams who isn't beaten yet in this league, and that means where fighting for the title again..

And i don't realy gid a fuck about what other people remember about Ajax and de Boer. I only care about what i remember about Ajax.. And that is two titels in two year..

U expect facts right?? Well those two titles are real facts..
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 13:19   quote  deeplink  
Remco

You try to say that my post is a bullshit with most of its part.

but if you can use google,i`m pretty sure you can.Google three words "De boer,Ozbiliz,Messi"
and PROFIT!
He(De boer) was not talking about only dribling style, he was talking abour overal style and capacity.Sure he didnt say that Aras had the same quality with messi.But

So how far can you go,in clearing shit from your ideal trainers mouth?

Thankfully there are a lot of links that prrove that you lie about his words.

And even after this,you write that my post is bullshit. So funny.

Boerighter says that he is not in form yet. =)

Oh well.Then send your genious De boer text massage with link to that article where Derk indicates that he is not ready yet.

Maybe if Frank isn`t good enough to realise that with his own head, after reading your message he will see that even player himself says that he is not ready.And then he put him aside of 11.

But it seems funy to me also situation with Derk.
First he tells that poor performance is because he is playing on painkillers.
The he says that now he even plays without them.
After being totally fucked up with real he says AGAIN that he is not in form.

So great and so easy. Go there mess things up and then cry about form.

send him back to jupilier league.the only level he belongs to.
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 13:57   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 11:09 schreef Javid het volgende:

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I`m agree with you.And that few players till this moment were fucked away.
Narsingh,Lens,Moisander,Boerrighter. at time they were not good enough for us.now we bay millions to get them back.
People think thats bad to buy players back, if you calculate what it had cost when they stayed at Ajax then its not a financial foul. More smart handeling....
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:00   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 13:19 schreef Javid het volgende:
Remco

You try to say that my post is a bullshit with most of its part.

but if you can use google,i`m pretty sure you can.Google three words "De boer,Ozbiliz,Messi"
and PROFIT!
He(De boer) was not talking about only dribling style, he was talking abour overal style and capacity.Sure he didnt say that Aras had the same quality with messi.But

So how far can you go,in clearing shit from your ideal trainers mouth?

Thankfully there are a lot of links that prrove that you lie about his words.

And even after this,you write that my post is bullshit. So funny.

Boerighter says that he is not in form yet. =)

Oh well.Then send your genious De boer text massage with link to that article where Derk indicates that he is not ready yet.

Maybe if Frank isn`t good enough to realise that with his own head, after reading your message he will see that even player himself says that he is not ready.And then he put him aside of 11.

But it seems funy to me also situation with Derk.
First he tells that poor performance is because he is playing on painkillers.
The he says that now he even plays without them.
After being totally fucked up with real he says AGAIN that he is not in form.

So great and so easy. Go there mess things up and then cry about form.

send him back to jupilier league.the only level he belongs to.
How many matches do you watch?

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remco k
 remco k - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:02   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 13:19 schreef Javid het volgende:
Remco

You try to say that my post is a bullshit with most of its part.

but if you can use google,i`m pretty sure you can.Google three words "De boer,Ozbiliz,Messi"
and PROFIT!
He(De boer) was not talking about only dribling style, he was talking abour overal style and capacity.Sure he didnt say that Aras had the same quality with messi.But

So how far can you go,in clearing shit from your ideal trainers mouth?

Thankfully there are a lot of links that prrove that you lie about his words.

And even after this,you write that my post is bullshit. So funny.

Boerighter says that he is not in form yet. =)

Oh well.Then send your genious De boer text massage with link to that article where Derk indicates that he is not ready yet.

Maybe if Frank isn`t good enough to realise that with his own head, after reading your message he will see that even player himself says that he is not ready.And then he put him aside of 11.

But it seems funy to me also situation with Derk.
First he tells that poor performance is because he is playing on painkillers.
The he says that now he even plays without them.
After being totally fucked up with real he says AGAIN that he is not in form.

So great and so easy. Go there mess things up and then cry about form.

send him back to jupilier league.the only level he belongs to.
It's not shit, those where the words de Boer used in de press conference.. He did not say he is good enough.... Hey only compared his style off playing..

And players need time to get back in form after an injury, if you don't get that, that's just stupid.
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:20   quote  deeplink  
Mokum
Please do not get me wrong.The last thing i want to insult you or somebody else.

But you know, there is some saying about people like you.

It says that , You can even get man with somebodies cock in his asshole, but even it that situation he will try to prove you that he is not homosecsual, and that cock is just birthmark, and fits in place where it exactly belongs.

Hope you understand what i mean.

Everybody see some shitty handeling of youth, you see some smart handeling.

Almost, there is still question.
All that boys were lost in times of so called old managment crew.

Maybe you will at last for yourself decide there what was old crew in reality?

Motherfuckers who fucked up all buissness with youth development?
Or as you say now they were smart handlers?
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:28   quote  deeplink  
Ok cya Javid

What was the saying of a first impression...
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:40   quote  deeplink  
Mokum forgive me but i cant get your massage.Try to rephrase it in other words.

But again, that harsh saying that i had to use is not for insulting you.It`s pretty emotional discussion.I realise that both of you and me support one team.And i think its not bad sometimes to push up the degrees in conversation but be keep all in required measures.
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:54   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:40 schreef Javid het volgende:
Mokum forgive me but i cant get your massage.Try to rephrase it in other words.

But again, that harsh saying that i had to use is not for insulting you.It`s pretty emotional discussion.I realise that both of you and me support one team.And i think its not bad sometimes to push up the degrees in conversation but be keep all in required measures.
its more 'the people like you'...you dont know me buddy and never will..
uitnoord
 uitnoord - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 15:21   quote  deeplink  
met de wedstrijd tegen Utrecht voor de deur en net de wedstrijd tegen Real Mdrid achter de rug begin ik mijzelf ook steeds meer af te vragen wat de Boer er in hemelsnaam toe brengt om de Jong als aanvoerder van dit team te behouden, erger nog, wat bezielt hem de Jong nog langer in dit team te laten, welke meerwaarde heeft hij, woensdag was hij totaal onzichtbaar, iets wat niet alleen woensdag betreft, nee ik denk dat de Boer afstand moet doen van de Jong, zowel in aanvoerderschap als als speler, de Jong is naar mijn gevoel de speler die anderen naar beneden trekt door zijn rara manier van voetballen, domme schoten ver naast het goal en meest rare pases die niet aankomen
Mokum1
 Mokum1 - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 16:01   quote  deeplink  
idd heb het nooit op hem gehad, maar maakte wel goals in belangrijke wedstrijden.

De Boer geeft mensen meerdere kansen en ben bang dat hij een aanvoerder nog meer krediet geeft.
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 18:01   quote  deeplink  
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Op zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 14:00 schreef Mokum1 het volgende:

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How many matches do you watch?
You mean by TV?
I didn`t miss ANY match off Ajax except 3 matches.And thats all in almost 4 years.Before that i miss matches sometimes.But in last 7-8 years the count of missed matches of Ajax by my side is not more that 20-30 matches.If we add nonofficial mathches in count it will be some more.
Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 23:19   quote  deeplink  
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Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 23:23   quote  deeplink  
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Javid
 Javid - zaterdag 06 oktober 2012 - 23:25   quote  deeplink  
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uitnoord
 uitnoord - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 08:43   quote  deeplink  
de jong zegt zojuist op de site, we moeten de wedstrijd nog meer bepalen, ho kan dat dat als hij zelf al geen inzet vertoont, hoe kun je in hemelsnaam bepalen als je al met tien man speelt!!!!
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 14:27   quote  deeplink  
Eide.
i`m waiting for your comments about what happened.
Let me guess.
Guys were tired after real?
remco k
 remco k - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 16:30   quote  deeplink  
It's simple, if you don't score ur own chances, ur not gonna win..
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:01   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 16:30 schreef remco k het volgende:
It's simple, if you don't score ur own chances, ur not gonna win..
Oh Remco come on man!

We get a goal almost in the begining of the second half.There were plenty of time to make something.This Ajax is total impotent.Frank vasactamied all team.No sign of character.

And again on 90+ minutes sporkslede passes ball back to begin to build from deep.
Thats your lovely ajax style.And its continues to bring results.

Be sure, that more will come. just wait and see what will happen in game against PSV.
There is not any Aissaty who can save Franks ass with lucky shot.

PS: Hope you get the message with that last pictures.

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Boudewijn
 Boudewijn - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:19   quote  deeplink  
Aangezien het allang niet meer over Siem de Jong gaat heb ik het topic aangepast van 'Wat doet Siem de Jong in godsnaam in Ajax 1?' naar:
Het (enige) engelstalig topic
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:37   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:19 schreef Boudewijn het volgende:
Aangezien het allang niet meer over Siem de Jong gaat heb ik het topic aangepast van 'Wat doet Siem de Jong in godsnaam in Ajax 1?' naar:
Het (enige) engelstalig topic
Hahahahaha you are going international with your forum,congratiolations oldie

-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op zondag 07 oktober 2012 door Nenam_tiL --
Boudewijn
 Boudewijn - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:45   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:37 schreef Nenam_tiL het volgende:

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Hahahahaha you are going international with your forum,congratiolations oldie
Ajax is an international well-known club! :)

And this topic will be open as long as Javid keept his comments clean and without provocations and disrespectful comments. This is aforum for the Ajax supporters, not to bash them.
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:47   quote  deeplink  
Boudewijn

So i can write only here? other topics are restricted or what?
Boudewijn
 Boudewijn - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:50   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:47 schreef Javid het volgende:
Boudewijn

So i can write only here? other topics are restricted or what?
Unless you write in (understandable) dutch in other topics.
It's a dutch forum so our visitors want to read dutch.
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:53   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:45 schreef Boudewijn het volgende:

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Ajax is an international well-known club! :)

And this topic will be open as long as Javid keept his comments clean and without provocations and disrespectful comments. This is aforum for the Ajax supporters, not to bash them.
He is not provcating or what so ever.....and he is bashing nobody on this forum.
He has his opinion on Ajax....no problem,who has it not
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:55   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:50 schreef Boudewijn het volgende:

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Unless you write in (understandable) dutch in other topics.
It's a dutch forum so our visitors want to read dutch.
Who says....you are,i have no problem in English on each topic what so ever,ok my english is poor,but he understands me,and i understand him
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:05   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:53 schreef Nenam_tiL het volgende:

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He is not provcating or what so ever.....and he is bashing nobody on this forum.
He has his opinion on Ajax....no problem,who has it not
I shake your hand virtually man!Seems like you are the only one who undestands me most of all here.

My goal is not not to provocate or else.My goal is to try to understand is it me idiot who undestands nothing in all that whats going on, or its something wrong with people who dont want to see obvious things.
Such as the team who plays for champion title is obliged to take three points in games with such farmer clubs like Utrecht.Or Kutrecht as you name it there.
Even this is home game, so two time obliged.

Now i`m reading Franks post match interviews.
Same shit From game to game.
"Boys need to improve" "We must score our chances" bla bla bla.

Can you tell him for those things to happen Frank gets his salary.Its his fuckin job.And he is the only man who must make all things happen. If he is not able,then he just act like San Marco did in his time.
San marco said Sorry, i cant do anything.And gone. That was the act of man with selfrespect.
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:14   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:50 schreef Boudewijn het volgende:

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Unless you write in (understandable) dutch in other topics.
It's a dutch forum so our visitors want to read dutch.
I think that not very correct to speak from the name of all your visitors.Unless there is not such a pole or direct restriction in forum rules to use only dutch.

I think forum is a place for debates and people here for discussion.If someone like me writes in english people are free to ignore my messages or react on them.

Be more tollerant.
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:18   quote  deeplink  
You must meet Stanley.....is your twin brother ouwe(dutch)on this.
Most the time i agree whith you.....but give Ajax time ouwe(again dutch)and abouth 2 or 3 years you are drinking beer with me......believe me Ajax is doing what they most do......brakes on it and slowly building to a great team

By the way......Boudewijn is the big boss here,it's his forum...and very keen on banning......Hahahahaha i know it for the best
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:21   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:14 schreef Javid het volgende:

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I think that not very correct to speak from the name of all your visitors.Unless there is not such a pole or direct restriction in forum rules to use only dutch.

I think forum is a place for debates and people here for discussion.If someone like me writes in english people are free to ignore my messages or react on them.

Be more tollerant.
Yep you're absolutly right friend.....it's up to any one to react or not
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:22   quote  deeplink  
Nenam

Can you tell me one thing. do you now David Copperfield? i`m talking about famous american illusionist?
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:24   quote  deeplink  
Yes i know him....but illusionist give me itches.....i hate those guys...why you're asking?
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:29   quote  deeplink  
Before you go further.....i am the king off going off line
before you know...i know every thing about you.....even the name of your wife
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:29   quote  deeplink  
You know, it seems like Ajax managment invite him as an individual trainer.
Otherwise i cant imagine how Siem De Jong manages in front of so much TV cameras to dissapear during matches.
The most shamefull and dumb captain of Ajax of all time. He stands in one step wit Lindgren.
remco k
 remco k - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:31   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 17:01 schreef Javid het volgende:

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Oh Remco come on man!

We get a goal almost in the begining of the second half.There were plenty of time to make something.This Ajax is total impotent.Frank vasactamied all team.No sign of character.

And again on 90+ minutes sporkslede passes ball back to begin to build from deep.
Thats your lovely ajax style.And its continues to bring results.

Be sure, that more will come. just wait and see what will happen in game against PSV.
There is not any Aissaty who can save Franks ass with lucky shot.

PS: Hope you get the message with that last pictures.
Have whe lost a game in the league yet??? How many chances did whe had i the first 30 minutes of the game?

And who said where going to be the champions this season?? Whe lost a lot of good players and whe are building on a new team again, that simply takes time..

PSV spent all the money they have and need to win the league, but they already lost 2 games.. it's possible whe lose the game against PSV, but that doesn't mean anything, you don't become champion against the bog teams, you'll win the league against the little clubs..

And your holy Jol lost against Utrecht as well..
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:32   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:29 schreef Javid het volgende:
You know, it seems like Ajax managment invite him as an individual trainer.
Otherwise i cant imagine how Siem De Jong manages in front of so much TV cameras to dissapear during matches.
The most shamefull and dumb captain of Ajax of all time. He stands in one step wit Lindgren.
He was last season very importend against the ponyneukers(dutch)....that's why the credits
remco k
 remco k - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:32   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:29 schreef Javid het volgende:
You know, it seems like Ajax managment invite him as an individual trainer.
Otherwise i cant imagine how Siem De Jong manages in front of so much TV cameras to dissapear during matches.
The most shamefull and dumb captain of Ajax of all time. He stands in one step wit Lindgren.
Did Lindgren ever score 26 league goals in 68 league matches???
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:34   quote  deeplink  
Hahahahahah Remco....gouwe vriend van me,hoeveel posts heb jij al neer gezet om je spelers te verdedigen.....respect ouwe
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:38   quote  deeplink  
Nenam you know everything about me? even hame of my wife? Are you serious? ))))

Man i never made a secret of my person. Honest person have had nothing to hide or to be ashamed of.

Ponyneukers - twente? =) in our community of russian speaking ajax fans i called Twente as "Loshadi" =) it means horses in russian.because the picture of the pony-horse on their logo. Now all community call that team as Loshadi ))))
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:43   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:32 schreef remco k het volgende:

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Did Lindgren ever score 26 league goals in 68 league matches???
Did Lingren ever get a chance to play almost one full season as a striker?

So don`t make shitty comparings.

I`m talking about their qualities as a midfielders and team leders.

Scoring ability is a good quality for midfielder.
But that abilty is not the main and deciding one.You know that good.
Javid
 Javid - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:51   quote  deeplink  
By the way. Xavi from barca nearly 700 matches over all careeer in barca in all competitions. an nearly 80 goals.

So if to follow your logic , Siem at least twice better ))) and we all know that its not so.

Direct job of a central midfielder is to create goals not to score them.And thats the only one measurement for a quality midfileder. How he builds the game upfront.
The only thing that Siem managed to build is a Lego constructor castles at home.
Nenam_tiL
 Nenam_tiL - zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:52   quote  deeplink  
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Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:38 schreef Javid het volgende:
Nenam you know everything about me? even hame of my wife? Are you serious? ))))

Man i never made a secret of my person. Honest person have had nothing to hide or to be ashamed of.

Ponyneukers - twente? =) in our community of russian speaking ajax fans i called Twente as "Loshadi" =) it means horses in russian.because the picture of the pony-horse on their logo. Now all community call that team as Loshadi ))))
No i want to know everthing abouth you....that's the different my friend

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