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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:43 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Did Lingren ever get a chance to play almost one full season as a striker? So don`t make shitty comparings. I`m talking about their qualities as a midfielders and team leders. Scoring ability is a good quality for midfielder. But that abilty is not the main and deciding one.You know that good. Like u said urself. Do'nt make stupid comparings.. De Jong is a very important player to Ajax, He is not in his best form this season, and he never should become captain, but he is important to the club.. |
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Remco. Ok.
Important in what?Can you be so kind and count for me at least 3 areas or direct duties in which De jong is SOOO important? |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:51 schreef Javid het volgende:By the way. Xavi from barca nearly 700 matches over all careeer in barca in all competitions. an nearly 80 goals. So if to follow your logic , Siem at least twice better ))) and we all know that its not so. Direct job of a central midfielder is to create goals not to score them.And thats the only one measurement for a quality midfileder. How he builds the game upfront. The only thing that Siem managed to build is a Lego constructor castles at home. That's not true eather. It's a combination of different things that make a good midfielder.
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| Hey Remco....volgend jaar een weekje Moscou....gaan we met zijn tweeén ouwe |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:06 schreef Javid het volgende:Remco. Ok. Important in what?Can you be so kind and count for me at least 3 areas or direct duties in which De jong is SOOO important? He playes with pressure on the opponent, hey creates openings for the coming people and he scores 13 goals per season.. he is a good in duels, he is good in the air... He is a good team mate.. |
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quote: Maatje van me is daar afgelopen jaar getrouwd, ander maat van me is er wel geweest, die dacht dat ie verkracht zou worden daar.. Whahahaha, die is ergens aan een achterwijk beland namelijk omdat ie een taxi een verkeerd adres had gegeven.. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:11 schreef remco k het volgende:[..] Maatje van me is daar afgelopen jaar getrouwd, ander maat van me is er wel geweest, die dacht dat ie verkracht zou worden daar.. Whahahaha, die is ergens aan een achterwijk beland namelijk omdat ie een taxi een verkeerd adres had gegeven.. Nee man.....we slapen bij Javid...is onze gids ouwe |
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quote: Whahaha, je bent knettergek ouwe.. |
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| O and by the way, why is it that everybody is complaning about Erikssen and the fact that he need to score more goals??? |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:10 schreef remco k het volgende:[..] He playes with pressure on the opponent, hey creates openings for the coming people and he scores 13 goals per season.. he is a good in duels, he is good in the air... He is a good team mate.. Man he can score even 60 goals but most of that goals came in time when they decide nothing.
I mean he scores after 2-0 3rd one.And what?Is that so important for team?No.
In games like today he decides nothing.
Good in individual duels - maybe. Good in the air - maybe.
But overall again is very weak.
I undestand it simple.Good player is not the one who has one or two strong sides.As a good air player or individual duelist.Good player is a player who have common qualities.
So for midfileder the best and deciding aspect is his quality to create chances with good cutting passes.
For example Altidore form AZ.He has strong body and use it for his main task.For scoring.And does it well.
Narcing last season showed that he has two strong sides speed and accurate pasing ability.And he used it well for his own task as a winger.Delivering passes to Dost.
So the task of player who plays on Siems position is to see oppenings of his teammates and create space for them with good passes.
And in that case, maybe Siem as you said had some strong sides like air duels or one on one duels.But it doesnt help him to do his main task.
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:32 schreef remco k het volgende:O and by the way, why is it that everybody is complaning about Erikssen and the fact that he need to score more goals??? So you think that if Siem does he is better midfielder than Cris?
I`m not fan of Eriksen by the way. I think he is overrated a lot.
But again Situations are bery different.
Chris is anounced as a top talent.He sometimes did his job good. Like today when he gave that nice pass to lukoki when we scored.
But they say that he must score more because he needs to improve shooting ability.Today was again pour shoot in the second half when he almsot scored second.
Theere are very different tasks ahead of those two.
Erikssen need to prove to hsi potential buyers that he is good not only in creating but also in scoring.Because potential buyers will never get serious atacking midfielder form Eredivisie who scores rare goals.But again main thing for him is creating goals and not scoring.He does his main task barely good but to declare the whole world that he is real top tlaent he must to score also.
Situatiuon with siem is different in root.
He builds nothing.Scores? who gives a fuck? when scoreboards in eredivisie are almost the same as in hockey. 3-3 7-0 10-0... There are a lot of games where only real invalid had no chance to score. |
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And as a result we have two man in central zone.One of them can score and play individual duels but cant create chances for his forward teammates.(Siem)
Second one can sometimes create chances but so weak in personal duels and did not score in situations where he must score.(Chris)
So in days when one of that guys have bad day, then we see midfield of ajax which cant score.Or midfield which cant make decisive pass.
As in one saying.Its better to be proffessional shoemaker, than to be a little jeweler, a little painter, and a little bit of actor - in all nothing. |
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| Well Javid you cant say Dutchies arent hospitable, you got youre own topic going on. Lets rename it in Javid's Topic ;) |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 18:29 schreef Nenam_tiL het volgende:Before you go further.....i am the king off going off line before you know...i know every thing about you.....even the name of your wife Svetlana? ;) |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 20:05 schreef Mokum1 het volgende:Well Javid you cant say Dutchies arent hospitable, you got youre own topic going on. Lets rename it in Javid's Topic ;) You can`t imagine how happy i am now.
After the creation of such a personal topic for me, i finally realise that i`ve managed to became real ajax fan.Real Joden with personal ghetto.
For the most effect still some things to do yet.
We need more.For example regulations for native dutch for how much replies one dutch person can add in one day to this topic.Or how long one dutch person can stay here.
do not give me food to eat,water to drink, and air to breathe.So human. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:34 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Man he can score even 60 goals but most of that goals came in time when they decide nothing. I mean he scores after 2-0 3rd one.And what?Is that so important for team?No. In games like today he decides nothing. Good in individual duels - maybe. Good in the air - maybe. But overall again is very weak. I undestand it simple.Good player is not the one who has one or two strong sides.As a good air player or individual duelist.Good player is a player who have common qualities. So for midfileder the best and deciding aspect is his quality to create chances with good cutting passes. For example Altidore form AZ.He has strong body and use it for his main task.For scoring.And does it well. Narcing last season showed that he has two strong sides speed and accurate pasing ability.And he used it well for his own task as a winger.Delivering passes to Dost. So the task of player who plays on Siems position is to see oppenings of his teammates and create space for them with good passes. And in that case, maybe Siem as you said had some strong sides like air duels or one on one duels.But it doesnt help him to do his main task. In that case i found him useless. Het never scores important goals??? I think it's better if whe quit this discussion There is not a single player in the Ajax squad that scored more important goals then Siem..
Again, he is not in a good form, and it would not be a bad thing to take him out every now and then..
And without that good form he puts Sana in front of the Goalkeeper with a very good pass.. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:48 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] So you think that if Siem does he is better midfielder than Cris? I`m not fan of Eriksen by the way. I think he is overrated a lot. But again Situations are bery different. Chris is anounced as a top talent.He sometimes did his job good. Like today when he gave that nice pass to lukoki when we scored. But they say that he must score more because he needs to improve shooting ability.Today was again pour shoot in the second half when he almsot scored second. Theere are very different tasks ahead of those two. Erikssen need to prove to hsi potential buyers that he is good not only in creating but also in scoring.Because potential buyers will never get serious atacking midfielder form Eredivisie who scores rare goals.But again main thing for him is creating goals and not scoring.He does his main task barely good but to declare the whole world that he is real top tlaent he must to score also. Situatiuon with siem is different in root. He builds nothing.Scores? who gives a fuck? when scoreboards in eredivisie are almost the same as in hockey. 3-3 7-0 10-0... There are a lot of games where only real invalid had no chance to score. Again, stop putting words in my mouth.. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:56 schreef Javid het volgende:And as a result we have two man in central zone.One of them can score and play individual duels but cant create chances for his forward teammates.(Siem) Second one can sometimes create chances but so weak in personal duels and did not score in situations where he must score.(Chris) So in days when one of that guys have bad day, then we see midfield of ajax which cant score.Or midfield which cant make decisive pass. As in one saying.Its better to be proffessional shoemaker, than to be a little jeweler, a little painter, and a little bit of actor - in all nothing. Again, not true, just look at the pass on Sana wich put him in a 100% scoring chance.. |
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Remco, one pass for whole game?Great achievment that can be proud off.
Wake up man! We were playing at home.With noname team.
If you can be proud of one pass of your captain per game, with such shitty farmers like utrecht then i almost understand that it will be a lot of 4-0 from Real madrid and other european teams in future.Your standarts are too low.
So i`m ok with you.Keep on enjoying your captain which gives 1-3 good passes for game whith dumb teams.And keep on dreaming about some day Ajax will return to european podium.
As i said before,i`m from Azerbaijan.It`s a country where last Eurovision song contest was.
One day one Russian politics said about the President of Azerbaijan that he is the most rich man in the world.They ask him how that comes?
He said simple. President of azerbaijan had 8 million(population of Azerbaijan) sheeps without no brain.Thats what makes him richest farmer.
Nothing personal man, but i can Congratulate Cruyff and Frank De Boer.They are also rich people while they have Ajax suporters who are ready to masturbate on one pass of midfielder per one game and really enjoy about what they see.
As there are supporters like you,who are ok with mediocrity of team, there is no chance for team to become huge.
As i said long before in this forum, changes can come only when there will be some changes in heads.
Only maximalist can achieve something great.Yo achieve something you must want somthing.
But unless you will get pleased with 1-3 passes of your captain midfielder you will achive no more than equals with farmer teams at home Arena and humiliating defeats like 4-1 from teams caliber of Real Madrid.
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op zondag 07 oktober 2012 door Javid -- |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 19:34 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Man he can score even 60 goals but most of that goals came in time when they decide nothing. I mean he scores after 2-0 3rd one.And what?Is that so important for team?No. In games like today he decides nothing. Good in individual duels - maybe. Good in the air - maybe. But overall again is very weak. I undestand it simple.Good player is not the one who has one or two strong sides.As a good air player or individual duelist.Good player is a player who have common qualities. So for midfileder the best and deciding aspect is his quality to create chances with good cutting passes. For example Altidore form AZ.He has strong body and use it for his main task.For scoring.And does it well. Narcing last season showed that he has two strong sides speed and accurate pasing ability.And he used it well for his own task as a winger.Delivering passes to Dost. So the task of player who plays on Siems position is to see oppenings of his teammates and create space for them with good passes. And in that case, maybe Siem as you said had some strong sides like air duels or one on one duels.But it doesnt help him to do his main task. In that case i found him useless. He scored the 3-1 for the championship against twente...
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He javid...u should write books man, damn...
Mr writer...;))))
Where r u from
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op zondag 07 oktober 2012 door hippy -- |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 21:19 schreef Javid het volgende:Remco, one pass for whole game?Great achievment that can be proud off. Wake up man! We were playing at home.With noname team. If you can be proud of one pass of your captain per game, with such shitty farmers like utrecht then i almost understand that it will be a lot of 4-0 from Real madrid and other european teams in future.Your standarts are too low. So i`m ok with you.Keep on enjoying your captain which gives 1-3 good passes for game whith dumb teams.And keep on dreaming about some day Ajax will return to european podium. As i said before,i`m from Azerbaijan.It`s a country where last Eurovision song contest was. One day one Russian politics said about the President of Azerbaijan that he is the most rich man in the world.They ask him how that comes? He said simple. President of azerbaijan had 8 million(population of Azerbaijan) sheeps without no brain.Thats what makes him richest farmer. Nothing personal man, but i can Congratulate Cruyff and Frank De Boer.They are also rich people while they have Ajax suporters who are ready to masturbate on one pass of midfielder per one game and really enjoy about what they see. As there are supporters like you,who are ok with mediocrity of team, there is no chance for team to become huge. As i said long before in this forum, changes can come only when there will be some changes in heads. Only maximalist can achieve something great.Yo achieve something you must want somthing. But unless you will get pleased with 1-3 passes of your captain midfielder you will achive no more than equals with farmer teams at home Arena and humiliating defeats like 4-1 from teams caliber of Real Madrid. There are games u should be glad if u only get one chance.. For example, Xavi Iniesta and Fabregas did not even get one pass today to put somebody in front of the goal
The rest what u say about me is alot of bullshit.. People like u who want to spent alot of money and prefer Jol over de Boer is defenitly not gonna help the club..
Whe made a huge change two years ago, and it takes time to get the right team en the right players with the right mentality...
But tell me, u got alot of things against the squad whe have at the moment.. What would ut first eleven be with the players whe got.. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 22:03 schreef remco k het volgende:And again stop putting words in peoples mouth, i did not said i am happy with that one pass, u said he never gives that pass and i only proved he did... Remco if you ask me to stop putting words in your mouth then maybe you too will stop to that by your side?
i didn`t tell that De Jong never gives passes.It`s for sure that if you play on that position in so low level chapioniship as dutch, you did it sometimes.
I just want to indicate that he is not does it as much as Ajax midfielder must do.
Are you ok with this conclusion?
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op zondag 07 oktober 2012 door Javid -- |
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what comes to my ideal dirst eleven with this squad, its difficult task for me.
I found 80% of this team incompetent.
The only 3 players that i found usefull from current squad are Van Rijn,Toby,and Babel.Maybe if Schone can play on his natural spot in the place of Siem i will like him more.And Maybe if Daley can play every match as his last 3 matches, maube even Daley i hold.Everybody else to bank or to sale.
So its quite difficult task for me to build starting eleven and name it better if there are no players that i found better.
But there are some must have changes in my opinion.
Miralem must play.
Siem must go to bank.Lasse must take his place.
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By the way remco, i think you know well name of your compatriot columnist Remco Van der Ploeg. Take some time and read his last column about ajax midfield.
Maybe he uses some softer words than me, but in overall he etires about the same problems that i told before.
REmco in his column writes:
"De kompaan van Siem de Jong op het middenveld van Ajax is Christian Eriksen. Hij wordt gezien als het grootste talent van Ajax en dat is nu juist zijn probleem. Hij blijft een talent!"
I write about it some pages before that its time for Erikssen to improve at last.
So Remco writes on:
Ach, maar misschien hoort het wel bij Ajax. De blaadjes vallen immers uit de bomen, de eerste najaarsstorm heeft alweer over Nederland geraasd en de NS heeft de blaadjes op de rails liggen. De midweekse wedstrijden zijn meer structureel dan zeldzaam. Kortom, Ajax kruipt weer in zijn herfstdepressie. Het is al jaren zo, dus waarom kijk je er nog van op zou je zeggen. Omdat ik het redelijk zat ben, net zoals Frank de Boer. Frank voelde zich namelijk woensdag machteloos. Net zo machteloos als Martin Jol zich gevoeld moet hebben toen hij tweemaal werd weggespeeld door Real Madrid.
So thats again what i told you or Eiden several psots before when we spoke about is this correct to draw the line between Jol and Frank.
Its clear for everybody that Ajax again failed into autum depression.Jol could not do something with that and fucked away.Then comes De boer.Gain 30 titel.And next season again same shit.But ok.He can again win title at the end and everybody forget about pour performances in first half of season.But this season AGAIN SAME SHIT.
So that begins to summon questions about competence of De Boer as a trainer.
Because for me one thing is clear.Even donkeys dont step in same shit twice.
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op zondag 07 oktober 2012 door Javid -- |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 21:55 schreef hippy het volgende:[..] He scored the 3-1 for the championship against twente... Twente was broken after that... Yes man.Kluivert scored against Milan in 95 final and Milan was broken after that.
So lets buy Kluivert next transfer window and let him play again.
Who cares? if Sightorsson is playing for Ajax Hospital FC more than for Ajax Amsterdam? |
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Remco for one thing i`m pretty sure.
That man on your avatar, who is for me the the synonim to the word Ajax may god bless his soul, cant get rested in peace while his Ajax plays that shitty football under managment of that moron with all clinical signs of Down's syndrome on his face.
I will never like him.I found him weak trainer. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 22:46 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Yes man.Kluivert scored against Milan in 95 final and Milan was broken after that. So lets buy Kluivert next transfer window and let him play again. Who cares? if Sightorsson is playing for Ajax Hospital FC more than for Ajax Amsterdam? I think kluivert will still score 15 goals today...;)))
I was just saying that de jong has been very important to ajax the last two seasons...
Only frank should have never made him captain...
He is slacking this season...trying to play like a veteran...
U know the smart way...that is not for him...he is a worker...
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 23:43 schreef hippy het volgende:[..] I think kluivert will still score 15 goals today...;))) I was just saying that de jong has been very important to ajax the last two seasons... Only frank should have never made him captain... He is slacking this season...trying to play like a veteran... U know the smart way...that is not for him...he is a worker... Toby or poulsen should be captain or maybe ryan babel... i see when people agreed here they write +14. That is the ajax type of +1 in terms of Johan Cruyff as i guess.
In fact i`m agree with your post but writing +14 for me is not acceptable.I can not accept and respect the man who was wearing 010 shirt as a legend of my club.
As Jantje was singing once when we won the cup, het zijn maar kut kakkerlaken!
So +10.Because i found Litti as a more legendary person.Or +3 as for Blind. |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 00:01 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] i see when people agreed here they write +14. That is the ajax type of +1 in terms of Johan Cruyff as i guess. In fact i`m agree with your post but writing +14 for me is not acceptable.I can not accept and respect the man who was wearing 010 shirt as a legend of my club. As Jantje was singing once when we won the cup, het zijn maar kut kakkerlaken! So +10.Because i found Litti as a more legendary person.Or +3 as for Blind. Do you know the situation about that???
Ajax spat him out, so he said...if you don't want me, i'll help the "enemy"...
It was ajax's own fault...
Feyenoord became champions that year because of cruijff...
He got his revenge...
Wouldn't you do the same if your great love spits you out??? ;)) |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 07:22 schreef hippy het volgende:[..] Do you know the situation about that??? Ajax spat him out, so he said...if you don't want me, i'll help the "enemy"... It was ajax's own fault... Feyenoord became champions that year because of cruijff... He got his revenge... Wouldn't you do the same if your great love spits you out??? ;)) If my father some day will tell me that i`m a bad son, and he doesn`t needs me at all,
And after that stament i will go to and serve my fathers hugest enemy just to prove my father that was terribly wrong, then i`m just a selfish moron.
In respect to my father,in respect that he grows me, gives me education and made me actually the person that i am i should never do that.
I can`t imagine how unthankful jerk i should be to do such a thing.
So my friend,what comes to cruyff i stand firm on my convictions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwfEwXDIWb4
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op maandag 08 oktober 2012 door Javid -- |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 11:04 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] If my father some day will tell me that i`m a bad son, and he doesn`t needs me at all, And after that stament i will go to and serve my fathers hugest enemy just to prove my father that was terribly wrong, then i`m just a selfish moron. In respect to my father,in respect that he grows me, gives me education and made me actually the person that i am i should never do that. I can`t imagine how unthankful jerk i should be to do such a thing. So my friend,what comes to cruyff i stand firm on my convictions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwfEwXDIWb4 I think u should see it more like a marriage...
The love for your parrents goes further then this....
Are u married??... If, one day, she will say: i dont need you anymore, i got someone else, what would you do...?? |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 12:37 schreef hippy het volgende:[..] I think u should see it more like a marriage... The love for your parrents goes further then this.... Are u married??... If, one day, she will say: i dont need you anymore, i got someone else, what would you do...?? Man, i will thank her for those beautiful years that we spent together.
Again. What a moron i should be to marry with her least favourite friend to make her life get worse.
In short i will never make things difficult for her in any way, in respect that we live together for yers.
The key wor in all this is respect.
What did Johan at that time was the ignoring of respect in favor of own ambitions.That person has a huge ego.
So as i said i see no reason to respect someone who acts in disrespectfull manner. |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 13:08 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Man, i will thank her for those beautiful years that we spent together. Again. What a moron i should be to marry with her least favourite friend to make her life get worse. In short i will never make things difficult for her in any way, in respect that we live together for yers. The key wor in all this is respect. What did Johan at that time was the ignoring of respect in favor of own ambitions.That person has a huge ego. So as i said i see no reason to respect someone who acts in disrespectfull manner. Are u or were u married?? |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 13:08 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Man, i will thank her for those beautiful years that we spent together. Again. What a moron i should be to marry with her least favourite friend to make her life get worse. In short i will never make things difficult for her in any way, in respect that we live together for yers. The key wor in all this is respect. What did Johan at that time was the ignoring of respect in favor of own ambitions.That person has a huge ego. So as i said i see no reason to respect someone who acts in disrespectfull manner. My ex wife sucks.....no respect what so ever,the bitch |
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quote: Nenam i think comparing of relations Cruyff-Ajax with such relations as Some person-and that persons wife is not simply correct.
Not every wife does something for her husband to establish him as a known person.
Ajax did for Cruyff everthing.Ajax build him.Made him known.And derserved more respect.
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 15:31 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Nenam i think comparing of relations Cruyff-Ajax with such relations as Some person-and that persons wife is not simply correct. Not every wife does something for her husband to establish him as a known person. Ajax did for Cruyff everthing.Ajax build him.Made him known.And derserved more respect. Yes i`m married. I was too...i was like you...always a optimist...i would have done anything for her...
Now she left me and i cant see her, cause it makes my blood boil...
Once it happens to you, you can judge about it...cause no one knows how they would react to such a thing...
I can only place myself in his situation...i would say i would have done the same... |
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quote: Still respect as long as i dont have to see her... |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 15:31 schreef Javid het volgende:[..] Nenam i think comparing of relations Cruyff-Ajax with such relations as Some person-and that persons wife is not simply correct. Not every wife does something for her husband to establish him as a known person. Ajax did for Cruyff everthing.Ajax build him.Made him known.And derserved more respect. Yes i`m married. Its about what u feel for that club/person...thats the same thing
He loved ajax...breathed ajax and they pushed him aside...
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op maandag 08 oktober 2012 door hippy -- |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 15:39 schreef hippy het volgende:[..] Its about what u feel for that club/person...thats the same thing He loved ajax...breathed ajax and they pushed him aside... Man, i fully respect your opinion on that case.
I think it`s more about the difference of our mentalities.
On some cases i simply can not accept the aprroach that almost every european person found acceptable manner.
For example in places where i`m from,there are so little precent of homeless childs compared to almost every country of western europe.
Same goes for the count of homeless and left oldmans.
Me simply have too little of them because even my family when i was little kid took care of one old family in neighborhood.My parents suply them with food drugs and etc.
Its a known fact that in Caucasus the health of family institution is much more at higher level.We born a lot of children and we sure that if some bad things happen to us as the parents, our sisters and brothers even cousins and nices will take full care of that kids as their own child.
So for me, as for person who was grown in such climate where the word of elders is the law and never had a small chance to be a theme for discussions it bit a strage to accept all that.Such a behaviour.
When my father was alive and i was a little boy i remember that it was hard for me even to talk loud when he was at home.So deep respect i had to that person.Can i talk about something that i could do to prove he was wrong on any question? Never.It was a disrecpect.
So i say again that i simply can not accept that shit.
That Joppie to prove that everybody is wrong turned to his father ajax with his ass.
Turning the ass is a half of the fault,but he gone further and joined the camp of principial enemy.
For me it means one thing.Disrespect.
Maybe i`m wrong in my conclusions,but thats the way how i was raised as a person by my parents.Thats the thing that i own with mother milk.Thats genome. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 22:36 schreef Javid het volgende:By the way remco, i think you know well name of your compatriot columnist Remco Van der Ploeg. Take some time and read his last column about ajax midfield. Maybe he uses some softer words than me, but in overall he etires about the same problems that i told before. REmco in his column writes: "De kompaan van Siem de Jong op het middenveld van Ajax is Christian Eriksen. Hij wordt gezien als het grootste talent van Ajax en dat is nu juist zijn probleem. Hij blijft een talent!" I write about it some pages before that its time for Erikssen to improve at last. So Remco writes on: Ach, maar misschien hoort het wel bij Ajax. De blaadjes vallen immers uit de bomen, de eerste najaarsstorm heeft alweer over Nederland geraasd en de NS heeft de blaadjes op de rails liggen. De midweekse wedstrijden zijn meer structureel dan zeldzaam. Kortom, Ajax kruipt weer in zijn herfstdepressie. Het is al jaren zo, dus waarom kijk je er nog van op zou je zeggen. Omdat ik het redelijk zat ben, net zoals Frank de Boer. Frank voelde zich namelijk woensdag machteloos. Net zo machteloos als Martin Jol zich gevoeld moet hebben toen hij tweemaal werd weggespeeld door Real Madrid. So thats again what i told you or Eiden several psots before when we spoke about is this correct to draw the line between Jol and Frank. Its clear for everybody that Ajax again failed into autum depression.Jol could not do something with that and fucked away.Then comes De boer.Gain 30 titel.And next season again same shit.But ok.He can again win title at the end and everybody forget about pour performances in first half of season.But this season AGAIN SAME SHIT. So that begins to summon questions about competence of De Boer as a trainer. Because for me one thing is clear.Even donkeys dont step in same shit twice. An column is just the opninion of one person, just like yours or mine..
And i think we play good football every now and then, when whe score the chances yesterday nobody would have complained.
And the fact that u think it's true does not make it the truth. I am very happy with de Boer as our trainer, of course he still need to learn a few things, but i think where making progress at Ajax... And people seem to forget that whe lost a complete team of important players in the last 3 years, that makes building very hard.. |
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and beside all that i wrote before.You say there in holland Once ajacied,altijd ajacied.
You said that he loved(in the past tense)ajax.But after Ajax acted as a club not good Cruyff decided to revenge.
So it seems quite illogical for me.
Or that saying about once and always ajacied is a bullshit, cause Cruyff managed did that things?
Because true Ajacied in my opinion never wear that kakkerlaken shirt. |
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quote:Op zondag 07 oktober 2012 - 22:50 schreef Javid het volgende:Remco for one thing i`m pretty sure. That man on your avatar, who is for me the the synonim to the word Ajax may god bless his soul, cant get rested in peace while his Ajax plays that shitty football under managment of that moron with all clinical signs of Down's syndrome on his face. I will never like him.I found him weak trainer. It's pretty funny because Mister Haarms once said that he thinks de Boer one day would be a great trainer at Ajax, he said that when both the Boers left Ajax for Barcelona..So the person that u think is synonim to the word Ajax don't agree with you..
What u say about Down syndrome is very disrespectfull against people.. |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 16:11 schreef Javid het volgende:and beside all that i wrote before.You say there in holland Once ajacied,altijd ajacied. You said that he loved(in the past tense)ajax.But after Ajax acted as a club not good Cruyff decided to revenge. So it seems quite illogical for me. Or that saying about once and always ajacied is a bullshit, cause Cruyff managed did that things? Because true Ajacied in my opinion never wear that kakkerlaken shirt. U forget a very important thing, at that time the war between those two clubs was nont a tenth to what it is now.. Supporters of both clubs use to sit next to eachother in the stadion...
Don't compare that time with now... |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 16:10 schreef remco k het volgende:[..] An column is just the opninion of one person, just like yours or mine.. And i think we play good football every now and then, when whe score the chances yesterday nobody would have complained. And the fact that u think it's true does not make it the truth. I am very happy with de Boer as our trainer, of course he still need to learn a few things, but i think where making progress at Ajax... And people seem to forget that whe lost a complete team of important players in the last 3 years, that makes building very hard.. Remco i agree with you on most part of that you wrote.Except one thing.
You say that if we managed to score that goals yesterday, nobody wouldh have complained.
But that is complete bullshit man.
Almost after match with madrid i wrote on this forum,that if Ajax after that shitty game next sunday can afford to beat utrecht everybody again forget everything and will fall in that stupid euphoria.
But its clear almost for everybody who have a brain little bigger than birds brain that its bullshit.
We beat farmer, noname teams and pretend that we are doing great.But almost every team from first half of tables of almost every big european champiniship can quicly show us the level that our team belongs to.
And i`m ok with that sometimes.Becuse i realise and accept all variebles in this kind of equalization.
Such as diffence of budgets,the lost of key players and etc.
But even with that noname teams we sometimes play the games like yesterday one.
I also can understand if it were simply lack of luck.As in game against Graafschap in times of Jol.If i`m not wrong there were over 40 shhots on goal, hits against woodwork and crossbar by SuareZ.
But when team gets goal almost in the begining of the halfm and beside that 3-4 moments and halfmomets did nothing for win in almost 35 minutes of game.Sorry i can and will never accept that kind of Ajax.
How hard it may be and can be, the difference between Utrecht caliber teams and Ajax is as huge as difference between Ajax and Real at he moment.I dont even want such a declassing as Real set for us.I just want simply 3 points from HOME game.I want too much you think?
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op maandag 08 oktober 2012 door Javid -- |
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quote:Op maandag 08 oktober 2012 - 16:14 schreef remco k het volgende:[..] It's pretty funny because Mister Haarms once said that he thinks de Boer one day would be a great trainer at Ajax, he said that when both the Boers left Ajax for Barcelona..So the person that u think is synonim to the word Ajax don't agree with you.. What u say about Down syndrome is very disrespectfull against people.. Man u get that words in practicular manner.
My opinion is that Haarms did say that only while trying to be polite and indicate that he aprriciates the services of those two.
Or you think that Bobby have had a crystall sphere and can look in future?
Or how you get that he is not agree with me?
Thats the difference between you and me man.
I say that i can imagine that haarms if he was alive were sad about Ajax.
You say that Haarms is there and his soul is fully happy becuese at last De Boer became head coach as Bobby declared once long ago.
WHAT A STUPIDITY?!
Or you have a direct phoneline with heavens? can you ask how my parents are there? are they proud of me because once they said that some day i will get married and have own child?if no? tell them that they can be.Mission acomplished.
And what comes about me and disrespectfull manner that i wrote about down sydrome.
Bealive me, thats an authorized diagnosis of qualificated doctor a friend of mine.He has all signs of that sydrome on his face.
And declaring truth can never be disrespectfull.
-- dit bericht is voor het laatst aangepast op maandag 08 oktober 2012 door Javid -- |
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